tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post6962502619460972887..comments2023-12-27T07:25:11.324-05:00Comments on Cincinnati Locavore: Killer Canning, or How to Avoid Poisoning AnyoneUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-62940694276674988812008-11-02T11:23:00.000-05:002008-11-02T11:23:00.000-05:00Good warnings for even the most experienced canner...Good warnings for even the most experienced canner. I shudder in horror at most of the recipes I see on sites like Cooks.com which apparently has no moderation nor concern for the safety of the recipe. Scary.<BR/>(Im a Cinti boy from way back, now living in central Ohio, I grew up in Dillonvale/Deer Park. It was nice to see your site!)JunkerJunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03022978446792143889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-43225232600028178312008-09-30T12:38:00.000-04:002008-09-30T12:38:00.000-04:00I recently starting home canning myself and I foun...I recently starting home canning myself and I found the Blue Book of preserving by Ball very informative and helpful.Kelly Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813816543838577257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-78491227890807162862008-08-21T12:43:00.000-04:002008-08-21T12:43:00.000-04:00Maybelle's, Woodstone Creek just announced another...Maybelle's, Woodstone Creek just announced another release: <A HREF="http://cincinnatilocavore.blogspot.com/2008/08/woodstone-creeks-straight-bourbon.html" REL="nofollow">Straight Bourbon Whiskey</A>valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-31447889734113058092008-08-14T20:58:00.000-04:002008-08-14T20:58:00.000-04:00fantastic post. for some reason, I haven't visite...fantastic post. for some reason, I haven't visited you in ages. but I thought of you when I was in cincinnati a month ago...I wanted to source some of your local vodka as a gift for FiL, but next time.maybelles momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16658578052191010931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-38500266645308427412008-08-07T21:58:00.000-04:002008-08-07T21:58:00.000-04:00Valereee, I would think there could be quite a bit...Valereee, <BR/><BR/>I would think there could be quite a bit of interest in an urban county fair if the fair marketed itself decently and actually tried recruiting the right people.<BR/><BR/>At the heart of a county fair is citizen participation. The folks running the fair need to attract major groups of the population. More and more people in the city are getting involved things like micro farming and sustainable lifestyles. <BR/><BR/>The fair's theme for this past year was "A County Fair for an Urban Society." It was a good idea, but there was no execution at all. However, there are a lot of things that both city and rural people engage in, like agriculture, baking, beer/wine making, quilting, knitting, etc....<BR/><BR/>Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread and turn it into boosterism for the fair.... I just see it as a great possible venue to pass along some green ideas....Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855272647050762250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-55553378274316942932008-08-07T17:02:00.000-04:002008-08-07T17:02:00.000-04:00Debs, I'm no expert in storage of food, but my und...Debs, I'm no expert in storage of food, but my understanding is that botulin needs an =anaerobic= atmosphere (that is, no oxygen, as in a sealed container) to grow. So I would assume an open can in the fridge isn't the kind of atmosphere botulin grows well in. But maybe other things grow in an opened can in the fridge? I do have some general feeling that an opened can in the fridge was 'dirty' though -- not sure why, but my gran always wanted us to decant into a storage container.valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-49951065835684064892008-08-07T15:16:00.000-04:002008-08-07T15:16:00.000-04:00Thanks. Also, I remember in my college co-op, we ...Thanks. Also, I remember in my college co-op, we were always told that we couldn't put an opened can of food in the fridge because it would cause botulism (and violated some health code because of this). It seems like a bad way to store food anyway, but do you happen to know if the bit about botulism from open cans in the fridge is true?<BR/><BR/>Debs<BR/><A HREF="http://food.gofrolic.org" REL="nofollow">Food Is Love</A>Debshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09217281333751656056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-27315103264988708062008-08-04T13:35:00.000-04:002008-08-04T13:35:00.000-04:00Debs, I don't think so -- if you suspect a can is ...Debs, I don't think so -- if you suspect a can is bad, you don't want to even open it. It's recommended you throw the entire thing away in some way that will prevent it from being eaten by animals. (Don't compost it, for instance.) <BR/><BR/>But don't let fear of botulism scare you from canning! It is not a common issue AT ALL, and if you can properly using a tested recipe, canning is safe. The concern comes when you can using a recipe that you don't know is a tested recipe or when you don't use a pressure canner when appropriate.valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-91405583213119386922008-08-04T13:31:00.000-04:002008-08-04T13:31:00.000-04:00Thanks for this post. I'd like to learn more abou...Thanks for this post. I'd like to learn more about canning, but will be cautious. <BR/><BR/>Do you know if there's any kind of home tester kit for the presence of botulism?<BR/><BR/>Debs<BR/><A HREF="http://food.gofrolic.org" REL="nofollow">Food Is Love</A>Debshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09217281333751656056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-18188582852528988162008-08-01T17:40:00.000-04:002008-08-01T17:40:00.000-04:00Tom, I'd love to see the county fairs get the inte...Tom, I'd love to see the county fairs get the interest they're due. I can never seem to attend either the Hamilton Co Fair or the Ohio State Fair for various reasons. Maybe next year I'll put them both on my calendar and see if I can't plan to get there.valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-36349434779003336952008-08-01T16:55:00.000-04:002008-08-01T16:55:00.000-04:00You know, I wonder if there would be a way for the...You know, I wonder if there would be a way for the local organic/locavore community to partner with the Hamilton County Fair to promote some of these ideas. My family attended the fair this afternoon and it really needs a shot in the arm.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855272647050762250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-63174015610435166772008-07-31T05:57:00.000-04:002008-07-31T05:57:00.000-04:00Jen, just a heads up on Putting Food By -- I used ...Jen, just a heads up on Putting Food By -- I used to have that book but discarded it because it was over fifteen years old. I checked Amazon just now for a new version, and I'm not seeing one. If the version you have is the 1992 version, you might want to replace it with a newer book. Most of the canning books updated around 1995 to include the new recommendations from the USDA on canning of certain products. For instance, some tomatoes are now low-acid and need to have lemon juice added to bring them up to high-acid for BWB canning.valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-62675617668121687542008-07-30T15:38:00.000-04:002008-07-30T15:38:00.000-04:00Jen, I love books that do that! When I just get a...Jen, I love books that do that! When I just get a rule, my first thought is, "But <I>why?</I>valereeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109328679669048231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8145304480917779208.post-42900302759007266512008-07-29T20:07:00.000-04:002008-07-29T20:07:00.000-04:00Gosh, I've seen SO many methods described in the b...Gosh, I've seen SO many methods described in the blogosphere -- it's hard to know what is good practice and what isn't.<BR/><BR/>I recently picked up the book 'Putting Food By', which has a lot of useful, readable information about food-borne pathogens, proper canning techniques, etc. Most of all, it addresses the WHY -- why you can't process low acid foods in a boiling water bath, why you should have an inch or more of water covering your jars in a boiling water bath etc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com